Thomas777 II

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Westboro Baptist Church & Gay Marriage

supplanter:
this is the cool new thing on facebook



supplanter:
something to do with homopervs

Asterion:
I'll have to look that up

Thomas777:
I prefer the swastika. Might not be cool or trendy, but that's ok

Asterion:
I couldn't find the meaning of it. I've seen the yellow equals on blue background up till now; what does red-and-pink signify

Thomas777:
Torn rectal tissue

Asterion:
Makes sense

NeoCornelio:
thomas, apparently Schmeisser has been doing drugs and having sex with one of the daughters of the phelps

NeoCornelio:
what do you make of this

Asterion:
"the Red take over of Facebook in support of the LGBT community against prop 8 and the arguments against Same Sex marriage"

Asterion:
Man, was my Facebook red! The Reds are revolting

popfop:
speaking of homopervs i was just reading about the robert hone case. two gay yuppies, both involved in gay equality stuff, and their houseboy drugged, sexually assaulted and murdered a straight house guest

Thomas777:
Schmeisser is a good man, Cornelio.

supplanter:
if schmeisser were to have joined wbc for shits and giggles he would be a good man.. seemed pretty into it and serious not too long ago

Thomas777:
Nothing wrong with being serious about WBC. They terrorize shabbos goy losers, Jews, fags, and other scumbags

supplanter:
wbc is a fed op

Thomas777:
I think WBC is silly, but whatever turns them on. Liberals and Neocons need to be shit on. Whoever is doing that is ok IMO

Thomas777:
I don't think they're a fed op. If they were a fed op, they'd be pulling Tom Metzger type stuff - advocating terrorism but curiously never being indicted

Thomas777:
WBC are just nutty holy rollers - their views are actually normal Baptist views. Its their stunts and media presence that is goofy, not their opinions

supplanter:
wbc has done more for gay rights and marriage in the past few years than what the homos have accomplished in thirty

popfop:
i think i agree with supplanter on this one

Thomas777:
Yes and no - people who back ''gay rights'' have serious problems. Its not like otherwise right-thinking people are swayed to this view by goofy stunts performed by Bible bangers

Thomas777:
I think guys sucking each others dicks in public like you see at the Folsom Street Fair is more disturbing to people than an old man and a few ladies holding signs making fun of homosexuals

popfop:
though on the other hand, it is interesting that they put themselves in the scapegoat position so all the lib hivemind rage is directed at them

popfop:
most videos of their protests show how ugly and disturbed their opponents are

Thomas777:
WBC exposes liberal bigotry anyway. Fags shouldn't care what Baptists think of them. If you're an atheist, who cares what other people think? Liberals are just self-righteous bigots who hate people who aren't like them. They're actually more like the Puritan extemists than WBC types are.

popfop:
people even petitioned the state department to have them listed as a terrorist group

popfop:
save us hilary clinton from the bad words!

Thomas777:
Christians should carry out ''terrorism'' - they're dropping the ball by not doing so.

Thomas777:
Americans are all basically atheistic - save for minority outlyers. Pious Protestants, a handful of believing Catholics, etc.

Thomas777:
This is why its hilarious that retardo goys claim people like George W Bush are Christian extremists. They think Yale men and country club Brahmins are a bunch of Theocrats. Its hilariously out of touch with reality


East Germany & Deutsche Demokratische Republik


popfop:
thomas, you read Honecker's autobiography?

Thomas777:
I've read excerpts from it, but not in its entirety

Thomas777:
Honecker is interesting because he was sort of a compromise between the tough and brutal KPD men like Mielke (and like Thalmann was) and the dour academics like Ulbricht. He was a consummately serious person. He personally hated Gorbachev, interestingly. The Sovs thought Honecker was too much a Stalinist, the West Germans thought he was too cozy with Moscow for comfort. Odd situation

popfop:
what do you make of the DDR?

popfop:
it seems they had a high standard of living for an Eastern Bloc country

Thomas777:
The DDR realized Sombart's vision of ''German Socialism'' is my take on it. This was combined with a Prussian heritage. That's what Communism in a ''pure'' sense looked like in practice - it was far more doctrinally Communistic than the USSR was after 1953

Thomas777:
The DDR had a reasonably high standard of living, and in the 70s, its per capita GDP exceeded that of England's working class. What killed the DDR was the internal situation in the USSR and the fact that the DDR was the literal front like of the Cold War - it couldn't sustain its military committment against NATO.

Thomas777:
I'll make the post you suggested this week

popfop:
cool, thanks

Thomas777:
When Trotskyites, Maoists, Chomsky accolytes and others claim that Marxism in the East Bloc was irreparably ''deformed'', they're talking literal shit. The DDR was a Marxist state. It cannot really be argued otherwise. It was anti-Jewish, authoritarian, and not particularly internationalist, but this was dictated by the global military situation - it was a state mobilized for war out of necessity. The DDR was nonetheless a ''real'' Communist country. Communism isn't something else - its not money-driven democracy, its not Maoist despotism, its not neo-feudal bartering in the Third World.

popfop:
i know Bertrand Russell wrote a book on socialism in the at the turn of the 20th century and had a whole chapter on Bismarck

popfop:
is this considered "German Socialism"?

popfop:
i think Trotskyism in practice would have just been hyper Jacobinism

popfop:
there's no way it would have been sustainable

Thomas777:
Bismark's Prussia was the foundation, sure - Sombart expounded this tendency further though. Spengler appropriated a lot of Sombart's thought, but tailored it to Conservative principles. Sombart himself was a Left-Hegelian, but he was also a German Nationalist. German Socialism to me is the culmination of Fitche - Hegel - Schopenhauer - Nietzsche - Sombart. Its a peculiar phenomenon. Americans don't really understand ''socialism''. They think ''socialism'' is old people demanding entitlements, Jesse Jackson hustling for federal pork, etc.